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Tredwell inspired by Swann bowling
James Tredwell has obvious reasons to be less than thankful for Graeme Swann's pre-eminence as England's 'go-to' off-spinner.
But the man hoping to deputise against Australia on Saturday - while England rest Swann and his sore bowling elbow, with an eye on the three-match Test series against South Africa - knows he owes his rival and occasional team-mate a debt of gratitude too.
In an era dominated by mystery spinners, wrist spinners and doosra bowlers, Swann and Tredwell ply a trade - with their own skilful variations - which dates back more than 120 years, and Tredwell said: "It goes back to Swanny. He is the man who has flipped that around."
He added: "There was a time if you didn't bowl a doosra or something like that you might not even get looked at.
"He has come in and shown if you bowl properly - and do it really well, and spin the ball hard - you can still do really well at the top level.
"That certainly spurred me on and made me believe that I could get to the top."
Tredwell's only problem now, of course, is to convince the selectors that his own brand of off-spin is good enough to either partner Swann, or at least provide a more regular alternative, as part of England's rotation policy.
"Whether it is to oust him or play alongside him, if you are doing exceptionally well in the first-class game, then there may come a point where they have to pick you," he said. "You have to try to keep that in mind.
"I have probably not reached that level yet. But if I can work towards that then you never know. They might have to play the two of us together.
"If I'm doing all of the right things, showing the people that matter what I am about, I hope they will decide to pick me as well."